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Plumbing Opportunities for the Next Generation “Talking Plumbing: Part 3” – TALKING TRADES EP. 4

Foreword by Ian Thompson, Editor

Today, we’re continuing our journey into the world of plumbing and skilled trades – Talking Plumbing: Part 3.

In this episode, host Eric Revels offers a glimpse into the experiences that shaped his perspectives on community, education, and collaborating to build a sustainable building career. With over two decades as an authoritative voice in our industry, Eric provides valuable insights from his inspirations to the future of trades.

You will discover Eric’s motivations sparked from USA based industry specialists like Rich Chui, and the indelible impact of camaraderie across trades. We delve into hiring practices valuing character and mindset equally to skills.

Crucially, Eric spotlights the indispensable role tradespeople play in society despite misconceptions. He urges us to acknowledge skilled professions coexisting with white collar pursuits as collaborative forces bettering our building working environment.

Over to Matt and Eric.

Plumbing Opportunities for the Next Generation “Talking Plumbing: Part 3” – TALKING TRADES EP. 4

Video Transcript

Eric, I’m curious. Uh, when you were still in high school or maybe even junior high, did anybody, as you kind of look back, obviously you didn’t know you were going to become a plumber as a 13-year-old, but did anybody inspire you as you kind of look back and maybe pave the way for you so to speak?

Uh, I think my story is a little bit like yours where I grew up watching uh Saturday mornings or Sunday afternoons on This Old House. Yep. Totally.

And Rich Chui is probably one of the my first recollection of like what I thought was interesting about building. One most famous plumbers in America I would say, right? Yep. And a prince of a guy too, super nice. Yeah, absolutely.

I’ve been lucky to meet him one time. It was so exciting for me. You got to tell me the story about meeting him because if I remember correctly you told me this once when you met Richard, he actually treated you like a celebrity rather than the opposite. Right?

Oh man, that’s got to feel good. You’re embarrassing, come on dud, come on you can, you can uh you can toot your own horn for a second. Okay, so we were at a trade show, uh like a pluming heating trade show and he stopped me in the concourse just in between all the booths and he came up to me and of course I know who rich trui is but I didn’t know knew who I was and he came up to me, shook my hand and said “Eric I watch all your videos on Instagram.”

Oh my gosh you’re like “wow I made it in life”. Uh you know what? I’m not going to lie. I felt pretty good.

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Hey Eric give me a story on this mini truck. This thing is super fun. Are you actually using this on your job as work truck?

I drive it around town. It’s a little bit more of an advertising gimmick. Yeah, uh originally I imported it from Japan, uh through a guy I met in New York, um, and I wanted to put the logo on it. It’s so fun. There it’s super memorable. People, people smile, laugh about it. Like you look, look it makes.

I love it. It makes me happy too just as a you know just a regular guy like driving this thing around. People laugh at it and they come over and want to talk to me and sit in it. That’s so awesome. I’ve drove it to a few uh a few estimates.

How many miles this thing have on it? No idea. It’s, I’d have to do the math. It’s got 64,000 kilm, whatever that is. I don’t know that’s like about 30 miles or something. I don’t know. I’m not real sure. I don’t know. Freedom Units [Applause] conversion dude. What is going on here?

Well we were cruising around in the mini truck my team may have set up a little daty style interview setup for us. Am I in trouble?

No, not in trouble. There’s no murder mystery here. Uh, we’re going to sit down take a few minutes talk about the opportunities available for that high schooler or maybe that older adult who’s changing careers and so we’re going to be talking plumbing. Let’s do it man. Alright, let’s go.

Eric, first off I got to apologize for yesterday cuz you know I definitely know that you would have done way more work in the field had you not had this old printis slowing you down yesterday.

No, it’s no worries man. It was a lot of fun. It it kind of brought me back to the days that I had somebody with me every day. I enjoy it and, and I don’t know if I’ve told you this before but I’ve said on multiple occasions that I’m a huge plumbing nerd. I really enjoy your craft and your trade.

I grew up using tools liking tools and you know I ended up kind of following the opportunity of home building but had I, you know, had a 10-year-old or 15-year-old older Eric Anie in my life, uh, or maybe watched you on social media, there was none of that in the ’80s growing up, I think I would have gone into an apprentice program.

I would have loved to been a plumber. Uh, so this has been an especially fun video series to do with you cuz I always enjoy your videos and, and think your trade is such an amazing opportunity for young people to get into.

And I said it behind your back yesterday I don’t know if you heard me I didn’t, uh, but I said on camera that I think that you are a quintessential American success story built upon the foundation of the plumbing trade.

Uh, you know as an 18-year-old you came out of high school you got a high school diploma went right into an apprentice program with your local union.

Uh, spent four years uh working in the field and going to school at night one or two days a week. You took your apprentice test at the end and became a journeyman as what a 22 year old? Uh, at this point in your life I think you were married already too right or about to be?

Just about yeah.

Just about to be and if I remember correctly Heather your wife of almost 25 years now at that time, uh, you guys were starting to build bu a house together as a 22, 23 year- old. Your union shop was paying your classroom fees so you had no debt to take on. You’re building a house. You’re making money. You made a really good wage as a 22-year-old and I know you worked hard.

Uh, during that period of time I don’t want to take away the amount of work you, you put into that but I do want to say to the young people watching this, uh, you know the last two days that we spent with Eric and today Eric’s really an incredible success story and honestly your success story is one that’s been repeated over previous generations.

Uh, you know as I think about my grandfather that immigrated from Europe right after World War I.

He went into the steel industry spent 40 years in the steel industry raised seven daughters. Uh, had a garden cut hair in the weekends. He died before I got to know him but I heard such great stories about him from my mom and my grandmother that uh, John Chimo is his name.

What an, what an amazing success story of an immigrant from a 100 years ago and you’re a modern version of that. I mean look at your amazing success you’ve got. You’re not on your second custom home you’ve built. You’ve got a boat. You’ve got a truck. You’ve got a work van. You got a mini work van that we had fun with.

Now that you’re, uh, you know you’ve been in the trade for 20 years owning your own shop almost 20 years owning your own shop. You’re just an incredible example of that foundation of a skilled trade and then taking that opportunity and running with it. I’m so proud of you Eric.

Eric, what do you look for in a young person who might be looking for an apprentice position with your company or another plumbing company? I think high school graduation is important, GED or diploma, either one. It just shows that you’ve, you know, completed something.

You’ve committed yourself. And then just the idea that you’ve got a lot to learn. I know when I was young I thought I knew everything but what we need are somebody that’s coming to job looking to get new, you know, learn new skills and somebody’s gonna have to teach you that.

Yep. So just be willing to try new stuff, work hard and then ultimately I think those kinds of people that are willing to just show up and do the work that’s going to be in front of them that day. I think they succeed when they do things like show up on time.

That’s a great point. You know and don’t ask to go home early. Phone goes in the lunchbox. I know it’s a pain. I like to look at Instagram too but we have a job to do and what’s important is we get that job done at the end of the day, get to go back to your regular life. That’s right. Yeah.

As a followup to that I would say stay busy too right? You know if, if you’ve got some downtime for 10 minutes, clean out the boss’s truck, sweep up the job site.

People our age really notice when that next generation, that younger generation is staying busy and has that work ethic. You know I think I’ve probably trained over a dozen apprentices throughout the years. Some of my closest friends today are my former apprentices. That’s cool.

And I know just by observing, working for big companies, working for myself, the apprentices that do the best are the ones that did do a little extra because it’s a little unfair to them but their mentor, their journeyman who’s teaching them is way more energized to do so. Like if I see you doing extra, wanting more, I’m going to want to do more for you.

I want you to succeed the way I have. I want you to do way better than you ever think you could but you know that it’s kind of a two-way street there and that reflects on you too. That apprentice or journeyman who does well, who goes on to get their master’s license, I suspect there’s a lot of satisfaction for you.

Uh but also as we’ve talked about throughout this whole series there’s a giant need for trades people in America whether it’s plumbing, electrical, carpentry, you all the trades we need that generation to come and so people of our age, our generation that own companies that are hiring people we’re looking for those young people.

There’s lots of opportunities out there. The opportunities don’t end like with what we did yesterday right? I specialize in heating. I do the type of plumbing work that most people don’t think of when they think of plumber.

I have former apprentices that have done literally run the job for new baseball stadiums here right here in Minnesota. Wow. I mean how proud am I to say like that guy was my apprentice one day. That’s pretty cool you way back when.

That’s awesome. I have an apprentice right now that is the lead plumber at a hospital that’s under complete renovation right here in the Twin Cities.

Wow. Like he did the work, he earned that position but I kind of got a little help getting them started. Pretty awesome. I’m super proud but it just goes to show that there’s tons and tons of opportunities: home building, construction, new construction, you know, industrial, commercial, residential, service. It what do you want to do?

Yeah, you know, and I think you’ve said this before but remind me. You mentioned that you’ve done several different areas of plumbing.

Would you recommend that for a young person who’s getting into the trade that they not worry so much about where they start, whether it’s a service plumbing, commercial, residential, but that during your tenure as a young plumber, as a young apprentice or a journeyman, that you try to get exposure in different areas?

Areas? Yeah I think it’s really, really important if you get into a trade to know ahead of time that what you start doing isn’t the end of it. That’s not it. You’re not going to do that for the rest of your life and I think I advocate for apprentices when I was training them. I was advocating for myself when I was going through it.

Get a couple years experience with you know company A, B, NC, MH and maybe they do residential plumbing, then go work for a commercial shop, then go try service, get well-rounded because you’re going to find out a) you’re going to like one more than the other. And you know whether you think so or not you’re going to probably do this for the rest of your life. Pick something you like. Yep.

But try them all it’s super important to be happy when you go to work, to wake up in the morning and not dread what you have to do that day. I mean there’s some days I don’t love what my job is going to be but I know it’s temporary and the next day I’m probably going to really enjoy it. makes sense.

I think when people think about a career in plumbing, uh, somebody along the line is going to say do you really want to deal with poop? Son uh or daughter.

Uh, in all the years I’ve known you I’ve never seen you or heard about you doing sewer clean or drain cleanout jobs. How much do you deal with that? With that? How often do you get covered in sewage? You know is that really a thing? Is that something that young people should be worried about as they think about a career in, in the plumbing trade?

I mean it can be sure. You know it just depends. Like we said there’s different, you know, specializations and I don’t have to clean drains. My company exists without it. A few years ago I brought it on to say I was full service. I don’t mind it.

Yeah I haven’t had any horror stories really on the drain cleaning side but as a business owner it’s really good for my company and the people doing that work whether I had employees or you go work for another company and you do that type of work you make a lot of money and so you know let’s be honest it, it’s not the best thing in the world but it’s not for everybody and not everybody has to do it.

It probably fits under that emergency plumbing rather than kind of normal plumbing so I suspect there’s a higher pay grade for you as a business owner to do something that’s an emergency for somebody rather than somebody that oh I got plenty of time I could do this whenever. Absolutely. Yeah. And specialized equipment it’s higher costs involved all around. Yeah that makes sense.

Eric what do you, what do you wish that clients, you know the people that are going to hire you, knew about your trade? I get a lot of people that ask you know is this something that I can do myself or oh I was going to do it myself but I didn’t have time. I kind of chuckle at that a little bit because there’s some truth to it sometimes but then I think people are just nervous.

They don’t know what it’s going to cost to have this job done. I think a lot of times they calling me in an emergency it’s maybe not their best day but honestly I think I, I try to show my customers like I’ve invested in my business.

I have the tools to do the job. I have the skills and I care about their home. You know I’m primarily working in people’s homes maybe an office here or there but I’m their advocate at that point in time. I, I want to do the best job I can for them.

Yeah and I think my customers they get that message because there’s a mutual respect. They treat me very well and I think that it’s, it’s exciting to see people I, I think more and more respecting trades people. More than did just a few years ago I think that’s true. And there’s been a lot of people older than us that have paved that path that I really appreciate. Absolutely.

Eric, do you ever feel like clients or maybe even your in-laws whether now or earlier look down on you because you had a job where you got dirty? That you wore a blue collar so to speak rather than a white collar? You know it’s come up a few times.

I think I’ve got that vibe. It you know once in a while a customer acts that way or I get you know kind of catch that feeling from them but let’s be honest our jobs are essential.

That’s a word that came out we learned just kind of really the meaning of it and applied to us just a few years ago during the pandemic but the reality is, is we, we need people to go to college. We need those white collar jobs and then I rely on those people because they’re not willing to deal with the things that I can do or they don’t have the skills or the tools.

Yeah I think it’s gotten better I’ll be honest but of course there’s a lot of schools out there that are not showing kids that there’s a ton of opportunity here. You don’t have to go to college. You can get into a career path without a lot of debt or any debt at all. Yep. And so I think we need to talk, we need to change that conversation at the school level.

I would love to see these administrators admit that you know we’re pushing a little too much heavy on the college side because we’ve got a lot of kids here that could do a lot of good for themselves, future families, for their community.

And they could be in employing people right there in their hometown right where their school is. That’s right. And that to me was my story. I mean I’ve been working in the town I grew up in for 25 years. How about that? That’s amazing.

I, I work in the houses of my friends that where they grew up in. And I go in people’s offices occasionally that I shopped at that store and it’s, it’s crazy to think that you know I have this job that’s so important to my family and I am recognizing my community is some of they need.

Yeah and I don’t want people to watch this and think that it’s a blue collar versus white collar thing. We need to like I said a minute ago coexist. We need each other that’s right.

Right. And I think it’s video projects like this it’s meeting and working with you that’s going to get that message out that it’s important to to have a more of an equality standpoint on it.

Yeah. On a personal note from my side I’m married into a family of lots of doctors. And as the builder coming in I think I felt that more than that actually was true. But now looking back I’ve been married almost the same time as you 25 years now.

You know my wife has a great life. She still works part-time as a doctor. She’s been integral to my success and when I was early on in my business she worked a lot and mainly paid the bills as I was getting my business off the ground and so as I look back over the 25 years and I still have a great relationship with my in-laws. I think they see that even though I don’t

have a white collar job, I don’t have an office job, I’m not a doctor or lawyer or some other, you know PhD program graduate. They see that their grandchildren are well cared for.

That I’ve run a great business and that I make a big difference in people’s lives in the building business and so I’m really proud of you, Eric in the life that you’ve built with Heather and speaking of Heather, I’d love to hear from you about how your spouse, how your wife in particular has been integral to your success over the years. 

I’ll tell you absolutely wouldn’t be where I’m at without her she’s supported me from the time I said hey I’m going to be a plumber and she thought, oh no another plumber in the family because her grandfather was a plumber and I had a couple uncles that were yeah wow and I think she knew that it was going to work out okay, but I had to prove to her.

And all along she’s helped me out. I mean, she’s supported me, she’s helped me pack lunches early on, she’s taking care of the kids when I had to work late nights, and she’s worked herself too, you know, worked herself as well.

But she’s moved into helping me run the business, uh, the bookkeeping, keeping me on track, helping get materials in here on time, things like that. And you know, learn how to save some money and make some profits. And a lot, a lot of it’s due to her hard work.

So I, I really, I’m lucky to be honest with you, for sure. She’s amazing. And uh, to have her work in your business too, how cool is that to have your spouse, your partner to be an integral part together of your success, uh, as a unit, as a family?

Yeah, uh, it’s one of the things I love about construction and the trades in general is I feel like this is a very family friendly business, uh, and just as a side note, I travel a fair amount now for videos.

But for many, many years I did not travel and I think that was really good for me as a dad, as a husband, and all the other roles I play besides builder in my life, cuz I was around for all the soccer games, for to go to church on the weekends, to do all those things that we do as a family that have knit us together.

And honestly, I think that’s been a big part of my 25 years of being, uh, a successful marriage. We had plenty of ups and downs, don’t get me wrong, uh, but my wife and I are as strong at 25 years as we were in year two.

Yeah, look, you brought up being able to go with the kids, do their things, maybe it was a field trip at school. I would imagine cuz I went on plenty of field trips being self-employed was one thing that allowed me to, you know, was the one thing that allowed me to be there that’s huge when I needed to be there, yeah. Uh, I didn’t make every baseball game, yeah, you know, but I made most of them.

That’s so cool. I’ve sat on the sidelines, I’ve been in the dugout, you know, we did Scouts growing up with the kids, so like I don’t know how many nights I’ve spent in a tent, but I did it because family is important and I was able to.

And I love what you said about construction and being family friendly. I think construction, even our, our co-workers, our colleagues on the job, we become kind of family in a way.

Agreed. You know I’ve got lifelong friends that I met early, early on when I was an apprentice, yeah, you know I’ve got, believe it or not, an electrician friend or two, you know, that we started out near the same time and somehow we enjoy each other’s company.

That’s funny. As a side note, if you don’t know the backstory, if you’re just meeting Eric for the first time, there’s always some funny tension between plumbers and electricians, uh, and some funny witty banter about how lazy one is versus the other or what an easy job they have. It’s just part of that collegial, uh, being a part of the trades.

And I think that’s true in, in all industries that work together, cuz right, we, you can’t build a building with just a plumber, you can’t build a building with just a builder, you have to have all the trades together working in concert.

And it’s one of the things I love about my job as a builder is I get to deal with all the trades and hang out with Eric AI on the job site, uh, but then the next minute hang out with the guys that are digging the ditches or pouring the concrete or doing the roofing. Uh, I really enjoy those interactions.

I’m curious from, from your perspective, I get a lot of satisfaction in my job walking away from a finished building as a builder, uh, talk to me about the satisfaction you get, uh, finishing a job, whether it’s like the heating system that we were at yesterday where they were in trouble, their system’s down, winter’s about to come and you’re putting a new system in, uh, or maybe your days when you were building commercial buildings, talk to me about the, the pride and the satisfaction you get from the plumbing trade?

I, every day I get that satisfaction one way or another, uh, so much of my job involves, you know, like I said earlier, it’s they’re not always calling me at the best time, right? Things are broke, they need to be fixed, that’s why I’m there, yeah. And that’s what I love about my job and that’s where I get a lot of satisfaction. I take something that isn’t working and I make it work. That’s pretty awesome.

Maybe I build something and, you know, from nothing. I am involved in new construction and we get to plumb a house. Like that’s special, right? It’s a lot of work that goes into that. And so when you can stand back and you see something that is so operational, so mechanical, and it’s making a difference, that’s satisfaction. That’s pretty cool.

There’s days too where it’s hard, you know, it’s very hard. And then you’re just glad to be done. I mean that’s, you’re not in the job that you go home and, uh, and, uh, don’t need a shower.

Yeah, every day you’re tired, you’re dirty, you’re sweaty, but you made a difference in someone’s life. Maybe you even got to be a hero that day. Maybe that’s pretty awesome. Uh, talk to me about what you think about when you think of some of your friends that pursued a different path than you that are the same age as you?

I’ll be honest, they hire me to do work for them all the time. I love that. They don’t have the same skills that I do, no joking, all joking aside, it takes both of us. It takes both types of career paths to make this world go around, right? I’d like to think that people in the trades doing the kind of work we do, it, it builds our communities literally and figuratively. We keep everything going and that’s important.

Yep. I need a bank. I need a good banker. I need somebody to tell me where to invest my, that’s right, my plumbing millions. Yeah, that’s right. Totally. But I also need that person to need me, yeah, you know, to survive. So it’s a give and take. I think there’s a lot more respect today than there was just a few years ago mutually between the two. So that’s exciting.

I’ve heard the phrase “dirty hands, clean money.” What do you think about that?

Oh it’s, that’s the best. It’s so true. It is. Hey, I want to, uh, ask you about a video that we’ve both seen before. Mike Rowe, who’s been talking about this for years, I love Mike, uh, he made a great short video where he talked about following your passion is dumb.

And in this speech that I saw him give, he talked about how a lot of times you watch the Oscars and a movie star says “Don’t, don’t forget to follow your dreams kids, whatever you’re dreaming,” that’s not my, uh, story and it doesn’t sound like it’s yours as well.

And in the video he says something to the effect of “follow the opportunity and the passion will come.” Tell me about how that’s happened in your life.

Well, absolutely. I, I too didn’t grow up thinking about plumbing houses or fixing furnaces. That wasn’t my passion when I was 18 years old, uh, I was looking for a paycheck to be honest with you.

I knew I could do it because I had family and friends that were in the industry and I knew that I was, uh, mechanically inclined. I was curious. I wanted to see how things work and I wanted to be able to learn how to fix things that weren’t working.

Mhm. And along the way I tried so many things. Like I, I’ve preached it many times, get out there, expose yourself to different types of, you know, different parts of your trade and, uh, see what you like best. And I think that’s where that kind of passion comes from. I love fixing things for people.

I know when they call me and they don’t have heat, I’m, it’s reasonably likely that I’m going to walk away and they will have heat and I will have done the job they needed me to do. And I made a difference for them that day. I’m passionate about that.

I want to help my community. I want to make their lives better. I want to provide cleaner water or more comfortable house to live in, just like you want to build the best house. I want to fix the old ones. I want to make things better for people.

That’s awesome. And that’s what I’m passionate about. And it, it just came in time, just learning these things and learning what I like most about my job. That’s totally my experience as well.

We talked about this earlier, both of us watched a little bit of This Old House, uh, junior high and high school, but I never thought about a career in building. I didn’t know that was really a thing except for on TV, let’s say, with these, these people.

But I did like that satisfaction that they seem to have of walking away from a completed job. And one cool thing that TV series always does, they always had a big party at the end of the job, the job was complete, all the trades took their uniforms off and put a, put a, uh, business casual on.

They brought their date, their wife, they showed them their work. I thought that was always so cool of like “Hey, look what I did.” And I still talk about that today like the houses I’m building, I fully expect my grandchildren, great-grandchildren to maybe come and remodel someday. I’m really proud of that. I love that. But that passion wasn’t there when I was 16.

The opportunity was there to, to start with a builder even though I really honestly wanted to get into the car industry. I wanted to build cars for a living, that’s what I thought my passion was, Porsches and all these cool cars. But you know what, even though I had nothing but Porsche posters in the wall,

I sure didn’t have insulation posters or plumbing posters or whatever on the wall. But I’ve found that passion later in my life. So that speech by Mike Rowe, I think is a perfect example of both you and I and the success we’ve found in life by following the opportunity and the success came later.

Absolutely. Eric, sure enjoyed getting to learn more about you and about the plumbing trade. Thanks for your time, brother. I got a bunch more trades to learn about. You ready to roll? Let’s do it.

Alright, super fun to spend some time with Eric Anie. You know I, I said it in these videos, but I’ve always felt like had I not become a builder, the plumbing trade would have been something I would have really enjoyed.

And I love nerding out on Eric’s videos by the way. You can see more of Eric over on buildonnetwork.com if you want to check out his videos. But next up I’m flying out to California.

We’re going to visit with a young master electrician, CJ, with CNC Electric who does some gorgeous jobs and really I think lays out the case for a career as an electrician. With that being said, talking trades, I want to thank our friends at Frontdoor for sponsoring this Talking Trade series.

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